For a measure of sweat equity, an entire world of adventure awaits anyone who wants to work on American public lands. In today’s podcast, Hal catches up with Melanie Vining, an Idaho elk hunter, mom and mule packer who is the ramrod for the Idaho Trails Association, one of the major outfits bringing together volunteers with the tools, knowledge and support to get the work done on our BLM and national forest backcountry trails. This is a conversation about one of the most successful public land volunteer groups anywhere. It’s about how the work gets done, why we do it, and the fun and friendships that are the essence of the experience.